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Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 12:52 am |
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Look at the pictures in the next 2 posts. I was testing the TripleSweet QA14-11 in two diffrerent areas and the mix of genes was very scary. As you can see, one of the boar "the lightest one," is almost pure uropean. The others "even the bigger ones seem to share the feral domestic quality. The short hair and arched back are tell tale signs of inferior breed. The piglets are even worse!! These should be all brown with the tiger stripes, but it just goes to show how fast the genes will divide in these animals.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 12:56 am |
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Another example of the lost breed. I 'm telling you now. If you don't start hog huntin ASAP! There will not be any of the pure breeds left The domestic hogs are out there breeding them.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 03:49 pm |
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| All diffrent colors.I take it the striped ones are the better breeding?
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Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2007 09:26 am |
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Help me out here Boarmaster, What you are saying is the the European boar is the the pure breed and the feral hogs seem to have a more dominant gene during the breeding? So the European strain will eventually be lost to the feral hogs?
My dilemma with this is, should we allow any of these non-native species to exist?
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Posted: Mon Dec 3rd, 2007 01:18 am |
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NONE of them are native. The problem I have is that the european have established a home here over the last couple hundred years, and they are the most "Native," problem is, that they are like dogs in a way that they breed so fast and with all the farm pigs that escape "FERAL," they could become extinct. It would be hard for me to put it all down in writing; I could go on about this for some time.
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Posted: Fri Jan 4th, 2008 05:10 pm |
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boarmaster wrote: NONE of them are native. The problem I have is that the european have established a home here over the last couple hundred years, and they are the most "Native," problem is, that they are like dogs in a way that they breed so fast and with all the farm pigs that escape "FERAL," they could become extinct. It would be hard for me to put it all down in writing; I could go on about this for some time.
In a nutshell you want the european strand around and not the feral pigs.Big job but how about trapping as many of the feral pigs you can and let any european pigs go.
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Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 06:11 am |
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I let most of them go with good genes to keep a good stock, but at the rate they reproduce it's hard. Most people don't care what they look like; they just like to eat them. I am partial to the european because they are harder to hunt and just look more like a wild boar than an old escaped farm pig.
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Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 03:13 pm |
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boarmaster wrote: I am partial to the european because they are harder to hunt and just look more like a wild boar than an old escaped farm pig.
I would have to agree.
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Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 02:39 am |
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boarmaster wrote: I let most of them go with good genes to keep a good stock, but at the rate they reproduce it's hard. Most people don't care what they look like; they just like to eat them. I am partial to the european because they are harder to hunt and just look more like a wild boar than an old escaped farm pig.
you definately hit the nail on the head. Shooting a pig that looks like wilbur just isnt as exciting as a european strain.
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Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 03:50 am |
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firedawg226 wrote: boarmaster wrote: I let most of them go with good genes to keep a good stock, but at the rate they reproduce it's hard. Most people don't care what they look like; they just like to eat them. I am partial to the european because they are harder to hunt and just look more like a wild boar than an old escaped farm pig.
you definately hit the nail on the head. Shooting a pig that looks like wilbur just isnt as exciting as a european strain.
Just make sure you read the spider web above the pigs head first
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Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2008 01:21 pm |
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| I did, it say's "BACON".
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:25 am |
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The mottled color pigs you see, are a congenital defect in the color pattern, not neccessaily a gene mix. It looks like the sow, with the back bowed up, maybe from the posture she is in.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 06:32 am |
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It's a gene mix on these; trust me I culled the farmers out.
(MC1R) The melanocortin receptor 1 regulates eumelanin and phaeomelanin " black, brown, and red, and yellow. The European is the only one that I have researched to carry dominantly (MC1R*1). I really believe that dilution causes the disruption in pattern. If you have more information on this please share it. I have been known to be wrong; just ask wyohunter
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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| Now why did you go and bring me into this.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 04:58 pm |
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| I agree that the color is a defect. Coat color is a result of (MC1R) within the melanocyte encoded by extensions of (E) "color locus," that have several variants. Pure european breeds are the only ones to carry the MC1R*1/E+ allele . This is a very dominant gene and can be used to verify the difference between domestic hogs that are "free ranged" and sold as "wild boar meat" and true european wild boar. Introduce other hogs to the mix and over time you will have an excessive gene pool that makes these defects the standard breed. I like the european, but they all taste good on the grill.
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