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Dry-Run
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Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 11:58 pm |
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brucet: How do you handle all the limbs and branches in the way? I know I need to clear a shooting lane, but the cedars and firs are pretty thick. Thinking about the tree stand I don't know if I could use one on those climber type because of all the limbs on the trees and if I'm going to be hunting the north facing slopes man them trees usually are to big in diameter to use one. Maybe I need to look at a tree platform an ladder set-up Yes I'll be using the 12ga. but from 50 yds would the /06 be better.
Well I did score on mess of green beans also picked up about 1500lbs of frozen corn on the cob. Any good for bear bait? if not I'm going to be BUTT deep in thawed out veggies
Thanks you guys for the help--can I have seconds please on the info.
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 12:51 am |
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Dry-Run wrote: brucet: How do you handle all the limbs and branches in the way? I know I need to clear a shooting lane, but the cedars and firs are pretty thick. Thinking about the tree stand I don't know if I could use one on those climber type because of all the limbs on the trees and if I'm going to be hunting the north facing slopes man them trees usually are to big in diameter to use one. Maybe I need to look at a tree platform an ladder set-up Yes I'll be using the 12ga. but from 50 yds would the /06 be better.
Well I did score on mess of green beans also picked up about 1500lbs of frozen corn on the cob. Any good for bear bait? if not I'm going to be BUTT deep in thawed out veggies
Thanks you guys for the help--can I have seconds please on the info.
Dry-Run
I use one of those apple prunners on a adjustable pole to trim limbs and branches.Works great.No question the 30-06 would be better in my opinion.I love those ladder stands for bear hunting.Mostly all we use.Never tried the veggies on bear.Can you get ahold of any horse grain with molasses in it.That works great also.Even better if you can ahold of some used cooking grease from a local resterant to add to it at the bait sight.If you can get any of the cooking grease also pour it on a nearby stump.That works great.
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 12:53 am |
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| Boarmaster sells some sweetner you add to bear bait that is suppose to help draw the bear in that I heard is really good also.
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wyohunter
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 02:55 am |
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Most of my stands are that close because the the dense vegetation I like to hunt in. I will use a bow at that angle. Only because I practice taking that shot. As far as which weapon to use. I would have to say which ever you are most comfortable shooting with. If you decide on the 12Ga. Get as close as possible. I have experimented with some different baits. I have put out fresh sweet corn and they did not eat it. I had some that had been cooked and had some butter on them and they ate those. I tried the molasses, I didn't have much success. I really doubt that they will do much with the green beans. Now if you cooked them with some ham and bacon grease and a little garlic salt I 'm sure they would then, but so would I. I totally agree with Bruce, if legal use lots of grease. I like grease for a couple reasons. First, they like to eat it and second it ends up all over there feet so as they move away from your site. They leave one heck of a scent trail for others to follow. What about using rough fish, carp ,suckers? I've tried them with great success. But make sure you check the game rules and regs. I can't use ANY part of wild game, bird, fish as bait. Only rough fish. Always remember what works for us might not work for you.
The biggest advice I can give you is, learn from my mistakes.
Boarmasters sweetener does work. And I am not paid for this advertisement.LOL I should be, but I'm not.
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 03:08 am |
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wyohunter wrote: I totally agree with Bruce, if legal use lots of grease. I like grease for a couple reasons. First, they like to eat it and second it ends up all over there feet so as they move away from your site. They leave one heck of a scent trail for others to follow.
It does leave one heck of a scent trail for other bear to follow don't it.Last edited on Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 02:05 pm by brucet
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wyohunter
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 03:12 am |
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| YES SIR, let them do the work for ya.
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 03:18 am |
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wyohunter wrote: YES SIR, let them do the work for ya.
WOW I just thought of the altimate cover scent for my hunters.........Bacon grease...A side bonus would be good close shots
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Dry-Run
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 03:35 am |
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Sounds good guys. I have bought some of all the scents Thats how I found this site. I didn't know which would work best so I just bought some of all of them. I did plan on buying some c.o.b w/molasses and put some wonder powder on that also. I didn't say, but I have about 50 gallons of fryer oil and some bacon/sausage grease I've been saving so I'll be doing what you guys suggest. Man I can't wait to go scout the area out. Yah know I just thought maybe that barely legal stuff on the corn or geens might help.
wyohunter: I for sure want to hear your advice. Same with you brucet. Once I get out there I'll take some pics of the general area and some of where I think I would put the bait site to see what you guys think
Thanks---Dry-Run
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 02:50 pm |
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| Just checked the Idaho website and found out you can use a 55 gallon drum but it must be securely attached to the bait site.You can't dig a hole bigger then 4 feet.You do need to get a baiting permit that allowes you up to 3 baits.You can also get reduced priced bear tags in certain units.No bait may be placed befroe the season except for certain units it may be placed 7 days before the season.All bait containers and materials must be removed no later then 7 days after the season.Any holes dug must be filled back in.No parts of domestic or wild origin game animals can be used for bait.No skin can be left on any mammal or carcasses used as bait.
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Dry-Run
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 05:51 pm |
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brucet thats correct. Is it about the same over in Maine? Just curious as we (Wa.) has pretty hard rules as does Ore, In Calif an Idaho you can run hounds on bears. Wierd how different areas have different ideas.
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 09:05 pm |
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Dry-Run wrote: brucet thats correct. Is it about the same over in Maine? Just curious as we (Wa.) has pretty hard rules as does Ore, In Calif an Idaho you can run hounds on bears. Wierd how different areas have different ideas.
Dry-Run
Here in Maine we can use whatever bait we want and can set out bait 30 days before the season in the whole state.First 2 weeks is bait hunters only.Next 2 weeks is both bait hunters and hounds with the last 4 weeks hounds only.Then you can shoot a bear during deer season if you have not gotten one yet.Have to have the bait site cleaned up by 30 days after the season meaning no paper or trash left.
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Dry-Run
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Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 06:26 pm |
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Well guys it looks like the weather is hosing all of us. We got some snow at home but not the minus temps some folks are getting. Since I have all this time to think about bear hunting I was wondering if you guys could help me scout out an area from a map, like topo or google.
The area I'm interested in hunting would be at Dworshak Reservior, the Reeds Creek area off of the south east side of the reservoir. If you would could you guys click it up and tell me what you think of the area. I've never been there and don't know athing about it except their are suppose to be bears there.
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Dry-Run
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 04:15 am |
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Come on you bear hunters, I'm looking for some input on this map issue. I'm not al that savy about where bears would likely be thought that maybe you could close the area up some.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 02:31 pm |
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Doesn't answer your map question but gives you an idea of what to look for.I use topo maps a lot and then scout the areas real well.
Location is Critical
Bait should be placed along a bear’s natural movement corridor. Bruins hang out in distinct areas where food is available. Heavily timbered forests near agricultural lands often sustain good bear densities. With cereal crops like oats nearby, black bears favor the accessibility and abundance of such forage and often reside in proximity. The same holds true with natural forage such as wild berries and dandelions.
With the aid of topographical maps, look for streams, rivers and ample low ground to provide damp, dark and cool cover. Dense moss-laden boreal forests bordering swamps and isolated marshy wetlands often play host to good numbers of bears. Beavers are a staple food source in some regions, so areas with spruce and poplar mixed forest near cascading beaver dams can be dynamite locations for establishing a bait site.
Look for indicators like claw marks on deciduous trees. While rarely do you stumble upon fresh markings, these lasting scars unveil a historical presence. Nomadic creatures, bears commonly travel traditional trails along waterways and natural movement corridors like valleys and ridges.Some of the best bear hunting I have ever had is in cedar swamps bordering a ridge or mountain. Finding fresh scat can instill further confidence.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 04:54 pm |
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| 4everbowhunt, when you get time read thru some of the bear posts on here and let us know how things are different there.
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