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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 11:38 pm |
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wyohunter wrote: 4everbowhunt, when you get time read thru some of the bear posts on here and let us know how things are different there. I agree.That would be interesting to know where you live in an area quite simular tree wise to my area?Are the bear hunted hard in your area by nunurous hunters or do everyone have their own bait sites with no other hunters in the area?Just remember to tell all your most dear secrets about bear hunting.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 05:41 am |
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| I don't know a thing about bear hunting. Do you eat the meat?
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wyohunter
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 09:36 am |
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| I do. I like it, to me it has a pork texture and a beef taste. If you get a chance make sure you try it. I sent Boarmaster some. Hopefully he'll tell ya what he thought about it.
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brucet
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 11:32 am |
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it is excellent.Only thing about bear meat is you have got to trim all the fat off.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 02:10 pm |
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wyohunter...It would be hard to say how it is different here not knowing what type of terrain you hunt in.Here where I live we have very heavy and thick boreal forest,numerous lakes,rivers ,streams,swamps and beaver ponds,mountains and ridges.Spot and stalk is not an option that is why we bait.We have large blueberry barrens which are a major food source for the bears in late summer and early fall making it difficult to pull the bears into baits by times.These blueberry barrens are either privately owned or leased and all are posted so no bear hunting around them.The type of terrain here is basically the same as the state of Maine.
brucet...I have been hunting bears for 36 years and have personally taken 30+ myself and yes I have some tricks I have used for certain bears so ask away and I will be happy to answer any questions I can with what I've done in the past.I have been a licenced guide here since 1977 and helped out a lot of hunters over the years.I'm no expert by any means but I'm always willing to help out fellow hunters if I can.
My area receives very heavy hunting pressure but is from the numerous outfitters in the area bringing in non-residents and not from the locals.
Chick...wyohunter and brucet are right on the money when it comes to their replies about bear meat...I love it and especially on the barbecue!!!
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brucet
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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4everbowhunt wrote: wyohunter...It would be hard to say how it is different here not knowing what type of terrain you hunt in.Here where I live we have very heavy and thick boreal forest,numerous lakes,rivers ,streams,swamps and beaver ponds,mountains and ridges.Spot and stalk is not an option that is why we bait.We have large blueberry barrens which are a major food source for the bears in late summer and early fall making it difficult to pull the bears into baits by times.These blueberry barrens are either privately owned or leased and all are posted so no bear hunting around them.The type of terrain here is basically the same as the state of Maine.
brucet...I have been hunting bears for 36 years and have personally taken 30+ myself and yes I have some tricks I have used for certain bears so ask away and I will be happy to answer any questions I can with what I've done in the past.I have been a licenced guide here since 1977 and helped out a lot of hunters over the years.I'm no expert by any means but I'm always willing to help out fellow hunters if I can.
My area receives very heavy hunting pressure but is from the numerous outfitters in the area bringing in non-residents and not from the locals.
Chick...wyohunter and brucet are right on the money when it comes to their replies about bear meat...I love it and especially on the barbecue!!!
Just curious to these questions to see if you have the same results that I have had guiding bear hunters over the years.
1.I don't allow anybody else right around my bear baits when I rebait them as I have had alot of bear bothered by this and skip the baits for a few nights.
2.When I have a big bear hitting a bait I don't want any strange human scent in the area as for me a big bear smells any strange human scent in the area other then my scent putting out the bait they are gone.Will not be back that season.
3.I use mostly sweets in my bear baits as for me the bear will eat some meat but not much and it calls in alot of coyotes to the bear baits.
4.I don't want my hunters moving around in their stands and when they must move move slowly with no sudden movements.
Those are the ones I can think of right off the top of my head.
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Dry-Run
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 10:12 pm |
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4everbowhunt.From the sound of your post you must be in Canada. The advise you gave me sounds right on. Only problem is it doesn't work that way here in Wa. We cannot bait or use dogs The spring hunt is by area and draw only so if your lucky enough to draw then the head scratching as to how your going to go about it. If you drew a tag for some areas its for opportunity purposes only,(so the state can sell more tags) but that doesn't mean there is a bear problem there. Other areas they say bears are eating the cambian layer of Doug firs, so the state land available has like 50 hunters in a small area. You also have to deal with the Indian's that can hunt where ever they want how ever they want like running hounds on roads closed to non-Indians because of there tribal rights. Or you can opt to hunt on timber property for like a $300.00 trespass permit and they will determine where you hunt on their land and what roads you can drive.
So I decided on a diy hunt in Idaho. I don't know jack about hunting bears but I've read every bear book that looked any good plus subscribe to Bear Hunting magazine for 3 years. So what I'm getting from you guys is what knowledge i'm going out armed with.
Went on a guided trip to Alberta for bear 3 years ago, was certain I'd get a bear huh-- didn't see but one so far away you would have needed a .50cal sniper rifle to hit it. So back home with nothing. Then 2 years ago I went on a guided bear hunt in Idaho. I punked out after 3 of the 5 day hunt. It was just to steep and far a climb for this old man and since it was in a wilderness area it was hump it or go home. Now after multiple small stroke and a heart attach earlier I said the hell with it and came on home, no bear seen.
I'm going to give this one last shot!!! If I can't find a bear in the spring using bait I'll sell all my hunting gear and take up knitting or some other hobby,
Sooo any help you can give on prescouting with a map in an area I've never been to would be appreciated.
Have I put you all to sleep yet Look forward to your advice
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 04:06 am |
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| Glad to hear you haven't given up. Hang in there and I'm sure you'll get one.
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brucet
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 11:23 am |
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| Never give up.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 12:25 pm |
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Dry-Run..wyohunter and brucet are right...Hang in there and never give up.Patience is the key.Yes I am from New Brunswick Canada.We also have a problem with the Indians here also but only regarding moose and deer.If so when starting your bait site hang a stink bait in the trees to get it travelling on the wind.Bears have a keen sense of smell and can detect a food source from a long ways off.I use old rotting fish or salmon guts that are in a sealed 5 gallon pail in the sun for 10 days or so.When I get to my site I remove the cover and pour it into a potatosack or onion sack,toss a rope with a weight on the end as high as I can up over a tree limb, and hoist it until it almost touches the limb and tie it off.By getting this as high as you can the wind will carry the scent further.I also like to do a honey burn or sardine in oil burn making it like a fish fry is going on.I will do one or the other even when I am sitting in my stand to try and entice the bear to come in early.As far as your home state goes have you ever tried doing scent sites which is not considered baiting???Dry-Run..If it were me I would check with the local wardens for the area you plan on hunting and get some input from them.After that use a topo map of that area and see what you have for waterways,swamps,flowages rivers streams etc. as bears cruise along the edges of these and if there is a ridge or mountain bordering them all the better I have found.Bears when coming into a man made bait site like to feel secure and safe so thick cover around the bait really helps.Good luck Dry-Run and any more questions ask away.
brucet...1)I also rebait alone because they get used to my scent only and a foreign scent will make them skip a few nights and in most cases become nocturnal.If I have hunters coming in I like to request a recently worn t-shirt with their scent on it to hang at the bait site 4 or 5 days before they sit the stand to get the bear used to their scent also.Needless to say a particular bait gets hunted only every other week.When no shirt invoved I spray the hunter down with scent shield etc. and give him a spray bottle of liquid smoke to spray around him every 15min or so as a cover scent and I use liquid smoke at my sites so it is not foreign to the bears.
2)I've had the same problem in the past with a large boar not returning to the baits also because of this.
3)I also use mostly sweets and small amounts of meat scraps.To much meat and it not being eaten causes one hell of a stench in a bait site and if the wind is in the hunters face they really don't appreciate smelling it on a hot summers evening.I use a lot of fryer grease from a local takeout and put it on the ground so the bears walk through it they leave a scent trail for other bears when they leave.
4)Here the bugs are so bad that I make sure they have good protection from them so that they are not constantly swatting at them because as you said I want them as motionless as possible moving only their eyes.I also tell them to pay close attention to the sounds of the forest because more often than not a squirrel has alerted me to the presence of a bear.
5)I stress shot placement over and over to my hunters and especially bowhunters.Been on the receiving end of tracking a wounded bear after the hunter assured me of a good shot."DOWN RIGHT DANGEROUS"!!!! I tell them to watch the bears reaction and note the last spot they seen him.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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| That sounds alot like the hunting around here.My hunters come in the sunday before the hunt so I don't get a chance to hang their shirt at all as they are hunting the following day.I always set them up in a stand also so the wind is blowing their scent away from the bait.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 09:24 pm |
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| If I have a problem getting a bear to hit a bait I'll set out some lobster shells and lobster leftovers at the bait site.This has never failed.I don't know if you have ever tried it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 11:59 am |
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brucet..Yes I have tried lobster shells and have lobster fisherman friends who save them for me.These bears have no idea how good they have it!!!! As far as t-shirts go I have them sent to me in advance if possible and labeled so I know which site to sit each hunter.When I can't get them then I give them a spray bottle of liquid smoke to spray around them as a cover scent.
How do you put out your liquid scents at your sites???? I use a super soaker squirt gun and spray the scent upwards of 30 feet up the trees to disperse it better in the wind.
Also have you ever made and used "Bear Crack" at your sites.????
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brucet
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 10:38 pm |
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4everbowhunt wrote: brucet..Yes I have tried lobster shells and have lobster fisherman friends who save them for me.These bears have no idea how good they have it!!!! As far as t-shirts go I have them sent to me in advance if possible and labeled so I know which site to sit each hunter.When I can't get them then I give them a spray bottle of liquid smoke to spray around them as a cover scent.
How do you put out your liquid scents at your sites???? I use a super soaker squirt gun and spray the scent upwards of 30 feet up the trees to disperse it better in the wind.
Also have you ever made and used "Bear Crack" at your sites.????
About the only liquid scent I use is anise extract I dip a rag into and hang or just pour it down the side of a tree.Never used bear crack.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 10:51 pm |
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brucet wrote: Dry-Run wrote: brucet: Here you go,one nice blonde to keep you warm at night
Dry-Run
Thanks.What a pretty bear.
I can't help but look every time I look at this post.What a pretty bear
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