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gnab2
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Posted: Tue Mar 10th, 2009 07:21 pm |
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| I am in the process of building a trap. It will be 10 foot long 4 foot tall and either 4 or 5 feet wide. My question is on the wire. I am looking for an alternative to cattle panels. What would you use? I was thinking of using concrete wire with the bottom 2 foot using chicken wire along with the concrete wire. I had even thought of using chain link with re-bar woven in with it. I am open to about anything. Help this is my first of I am sure of many traps. I was even looking at the 2x4 sq wire that I have used with dog pens before. I would take rebar and weve it in the wire to make it stronger but Would it be strong enough? I have all th metal for the frame, I just need to decide on the covering wire. 4x4x20ft panels are about $55 each, so I would need 3. I am trying to keep the cost down. Cheap is good for me but I don't want to be doing it over again.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 02:58 am |
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I have seen portable traps made with concrete wire, and I didn't like them. To begin with, the welds are not meant to do anything but hold the wire together until the concrete is poured. The traps I saw were so rusty, you didn't want to touch them. Then again, my brother took a roll of re-wire, had it galvinized, and built cattle working pens out of it. This was almost 30 years ago, before cow panels were available. It seems to work ok. I have built my last 2 traps out of 4 X 4 panels. These seem to be a good size. Small enough to hold smaller pigs in. You can get these panels in 5 foot high panels, instead of 4 foot. They also come in 16 or 20 foot panels. Whatever you choose, remember that full grown hogs will be running and hitting them full force, when they get trapped, So the wire has to be tough. A friend of mine has traps that the sides are as round as coke bottles, from being hit from the inside, by hogs.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 03:24 am |
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Thanks for the info. I will post some pics when I get done with it. I think that I am going to use cattle panels.
Any advice from the ol'timers?
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Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 08:21 am |
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| Looking forward to seeing the finished trap!
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Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2009 05:46 pm |
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gnab2, i agree w/ chick on the4x4 panels. i'm no expert on hog trapping but the time i have been around them i've been glad that i used the 4x4 panels. i usually try the less expensive route the first time around also on something thats new to me but u can take this advice to the bank. if it's not made out of panels or welded pipe u will be building it again. let us know how it works out for ya!!!!!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 02:30 am |
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| On any of the portable traps, I will use 4 X 4 from now on. On the big round permanent trap, I used regular stock panels, as you can see. I had them, and if I had to buy them, it would have been quite expensive.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 10:09 pm |
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| Well I have traps made out of all three types of wire. The first trap that I own was made for me by a relative of mine and he used concrete wire. The wire was rusty and the welds on the wire itself break easily and you end up re-welding the wire back to itself. Stay away from it it's not worth the bother. The wire diameter was slightly smaller than cattle panel, wire and 6x8 inch squares. The next trap I made for a friend out of cattle panel and it holds the larger hogs well but smaller hogs the "watermelons" get out easily, the next two traps I made were out of hurricane fence wire, they have held every hog that have gotten in to them. The thing about this hurricane fence wire is that it came from around a city penitentiary. Very thick wire, not the stuff you see around residential housing.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 05:50 am |
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I have seen the concrete wire used, and I strongly suggest against it. As you said, the cow panels let the little ones out. The 4" X 4" panels are the best bet. I have also seen where the cow panels were welded to an angle iron frame, and the hogs will hit them so hard, it will break the wire welds, not the welds to the angle iron. Next thing you know, the hogs will go through it. I had to cut a piece of panel and wrap the wire around the angle iron frame, and the other panel wire, to repair the trap. I have found that welds are not as reliable as wrapping the wire back to itself. Also, where the 2 sides come together, wrap each end, not just 1 end. If you wrap one end, it leave the other end to rely on a weld. Here is a picture of what it looks like. You can use a short 1/4" pipe nipple to slip over the wire end to give you the leverage you need to bend it. I also use a 1/2" box end wrench and a pair of channel locks, in the bending and wrapping.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 01:37 am |
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| Ok, I finally got this picture of the hurricane fence wire trap re-sized. I hope you can see some details after resizing. Alot of hog trappers around here like it because of its thicker wire and hole size, it will hold large hogs and solve your coon issues as well, he[img]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/delton%20cox/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/Dell%20Image%20Expert%20Images/ Attached Image (viewed 62 times):
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Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 08:17 pm |
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| Looks good to me. If I was building it, what would worry me is welding all the small diameter wires. I bet I would burn through 20% of them. Have you tried it yet? What kind of trigger do you have? Some people just use a stick with a string tied to it, and when the hog hits the string, it pulls the stick out of the door.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 04:00 am |
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| Thanks for the compliment Chick, Well the welding was not so bad because I have a Lincoln 175 Pro mig welder. Once you get the amperage and wire speed set it is easy welding the wire, yeah I burned through a few before I got the hang of it. But once again the wire diameter looks small on the picture but it's larger than it appears. Yeah I caught hogs in it and all the welds held just fine. But unfortunately it got stolen so I'll be making another one. The trigger I use I got from a video made by Kevin Ryer over at Texasboars. The trigger works really good, I made one modification in the trigger by running the trip wire from the trigger then through a piece of one inch channel with a hole in it which was welded to the upper cross member. The channel was welded to the cross member so that the trip wire was level from the trigger to the hole in the one inch channel. Then from the one inch channel it was run to a trip board. We are going to do some more trapping this week, if my trapping partner and I catch some hogs I'll take some pictures of them. He has the same set up as I do except his trap is made of 1 1/2 inch square tubing. Here in north central Louisiana it is hard to find the 4 in square panels, but they sale cattle panel and sometimes you can find stockade panels were the first three bottom rows of the panel wire are about 2 or 3 inches apart. But at 33 dollars for a one 16 foot panel it's a little steep for me (stockade panel) and it's 26 to 28 dollars for cattle panel.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 08:25 am |
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Yeah, they are asking way too much for those panels. If you can find a Tractor Supply, they sell the 4 X 4 panels, as well as others. I would love to see the pictures of any hogs you catch! Be sure to post them.
If you talk to Kevin Ryar, be sure to tell him I said hello.
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