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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 10:16 am |
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| I am lookin to try a hog call and I can't figure out which one to get. I have never used a hog call before and I figured it would be something fun to try out.I have heard about an electric call that sounds like pigs fightin while they are feedin but I haven't been able to find any like that. Anybody have any suggestions on any calls that have worked good for them.
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 02:11 am |
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Just my experience,...don't waste your money on hog calls, or the gas to get to the store. Old time hog hunters will tell you that the only effective use of a hog call is to scare pigs away from where you are....
Best bet is to run a feeder constantly, by a water source, with lots of cover. Use an elivated stand, invest in some feeder lights, a good scope, and sit it out.
Some folks use scents while they are hunting, but considering the wind carries the scent (hopefully) from the feeder to you, the scent will be mixed with your own, and then pigs will more than likely bust you..... and it surely won't be blowing around the feeder...
The more quiet you are, the more pigs you'll see.....
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 12:21 pm |
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| I imagine that occationally, there are grunts and sounds that woul attract hogs, but for the most part, I agree with Silver Boar. Nutoy has played with the call a bit. You might ask him.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15th, 2009 06:37 pm |
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Hogs can be called, however if you are not experienced and successful at hunting and killing hogs during the day you are wasting your time. I'm not saying these guys aren't good hunters, I know silver boar can kill a hog. However most tried calling out of frustration early on in their hog hunting career as did I. I was very disappointed in the beginning. It only took me 13 years to discover the key........experience and knowing what to say. Some grunt mean get the heck out of Dodge! Will it work every time? NO. It is just like calling any other animal. I'm gonna convert ol' silver boar one of these days.
I don't call hogs near feeders for one main reason. Most hogs coming to a feeder or food source will be on high alert and cautious for many reasons. That's another story.
I would try using grunt tubes first, a quality low pitched grunt tube works well. When you are successful calling them that way then invest in an e-caller. I hunt near bedding areas or travel corridors. I use tending grunts and sow protection grunts the most. Be prepared when it works you will get shook up ! Big mature boars will come hard and fast when they respond!
Tending grunts; they are short steady grunts of 8-10 in a sequence.
sow protection grunts; is a steady series of grunts that gets louder as the sequence is carried out. It sounds very similar to a small engine warming up.
a lost/locate grunt works after the shot. some hogs are not sure what they just heard they have no way of reasoning that what they just heard was gunfire unless they've been shot at A LOT! Locate grunts are 4-6 grunts in a sequence with short pauses between each series. It will gather the confused hogs back into gun range providing the wind is in your favor. The young ones will come first so be patient unless your just wanting some good eatin' meat in small quantaties.
hope it works out for you. I would love to hear the stories when it does.
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Posted: Wed Sep 16th, 2009 07:00 pm |
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Glen has just offered some excellent tips on hog calling. As he stated it does not work every time but when it does the results can be amazing to almost hysterically funny.
Knowing what NOT to say is just as important as knowing what to say. Here are a couple of what not to says.
Alarm/caution growl,, A single, semi-long, semi soft low pitched gutteral growl followed by silence. It may be repeated if all the surrounding hogs don't "freeze" in thier tracks. Usually, if you hear this more then once the hogs will just seem to fade away in the opposite direction.
Alarm grunt, what I call the "see you later UMFFFF",, A single sharp loud staccato grunt. This is usually followed by the sound of beating hoofs and a visible dust trail heading to the thickest cover available. The time between the UMFF and the beating hoofs is dependant on how much pressure the hogs have been under. I HATE THIS SOUND. LOL
Why I think hogs can be difficult to call compared to other animals?
Hogs have quiet a vocabulary and there can be subtle differences in thier calls. As hard as it can be to do sometimes, take the time and listen to a group of hogs as they travel and feed. You'll be amazed at how well they comunicate with each other.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2009 12:36 am |
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Nutoy the vocabulary is incredible. I would have never dreamed how complex it is. I have had captive feral hogs for 3 years now and I still learn new stuff regularly. OF course you must take into consideration that individuals speak a little different the same as people. I now have 15 feral 2 of which I took C-section from a sow I shot. I also have five duroc-feral crosses They are very different in the way they communicate.
another factor that you must consider is that hogs must be in close proximity of the caller. They are not likely to cover a lot of ground responding to a call. That is why we call them in tight cover.
Calling a hog for the first time is one of the most incredible experiences you will have in the woods!
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Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2009 01:36 am |
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Hey guys,
The ONE thing I forgot to mention in my previous post was that I DO know a guy who has been, and is successful at calling hogs. (Of course, It's Glenn...) And just as he stated in his last post, most of us, (Me included) gave calling a try in our early yrs. of hog hunting and had no success. I'm definately one of those hunters!
The recomendation I was posting about earlier was in reference to just that fact: That most of us don't know how to do it, and shouldn't waste the money or hunting time trying to do it. Again, I have no doubt that Glenn can do it. I have read his stories for years and see the pic. results! The man can call hogs.
For those of you who subscribe to Boar Hunter magazine, he has written 2 VERY informative articles in the last 2 issues regarding the subject. All very insightful. One day, when I get some extra gas money, I'll make the trip North of Dallas and get the opportunity to hunt with the master hog caller.
I was talking to Glenn on the phone one afternoon and he said something that struck me as VERY profound which I am still kicking around in my head. He said the following: "Any animal that has the ability to vocalize can be called."
I pondered that for a moment, .....and despite all of my previous endoctrination by those who know much more about hog hunting than I do, could not find fault with the statement. Even though I have never done it, nor seen anyone do it, I know that HOGS do it. I have heard the various sounds before. many times, I just didn't understand anything other than the "SNORT" and hi-tailing it outta here" sound. (busted!) What Glenn said makes total sence. Pigs don't make those sounds for the hell of it. They serve a purpose in their world.
Here's an idea! How about a Guess Seminar on hog calling? We could chalk it up as a BoarMasters get together as well/ Now THAT would be worth the trip!....
Last edited on Thu Sep 17th, 2009 01:51 am by Silver Boar
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Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 10:29 am |
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| a seminar huh? sounds good to me
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 07:08 pm |
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| How about the seminar Glenn? A Boarmaster's event? Sometime about February?
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 10:14 pm |
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we'll have to see. I have a lot booked from no till may!
what do you have in mind and where?
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 08:08 am |
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Since I`m in Mn. be a very long way to travel. BUT wife & I rented a house just north os San Antonio month of Jan. Guess if you can`t do a "Boarmasters" seminar. How about a private even paid hunt for me in Jan ? Shoot if your tied up seems you could (don`t take this wrong) hire out your wife ! Looks like she gets more hogs on a good weekend than I have in my life 
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 11:40 am |
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I'm a long ways from SA. I might be able to help you find some one in that area. I don't guide anymore haven't in a couple of years. It looks like I do with the extras I take but don't. Long story.
actually Silver boar isn't too far from there he might be able to help you find some one. they have far more hogs in that area than I do anyway.
Oh, I keep puttin' the wife out on the corner but she wont stay!
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 11:55 am |
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Thanks for the advise. OH SILVER BOAR you listening in ? Any word from the wise
I`ll be in Boerne entire month of Jan. Have a hunt booked with nighthogs.com That looks pretty cool. Need to hunt. Can`t shop & sightsee the entire month.
Guess want me to send you some shackels !
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 01:27 pm |
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| Have not thought past having a seminar of some sort. It could be at a hunting show of some sort, or just an afternoon get together, close to your home. We can kick it around. Needs to NOT be during deer season, though.
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 02:57 pm |
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| I agree!I'm usually very bsuy from Oct.1 through mid may.
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